Ancestors of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

Since the Turks here kept the same lifestyle in the beginning of 1400, when they were sent there as Beyşehir Karaman Turks, and this house is used as a museum after it was restored after 2011. Right now, you can see the items in the house that were used at that time, our friends who went to that house have a picture of Atatürk taken with his cadet friends on their walls and his new picture and a very valuable work by Numan Kartal Bey about these Kocacık Turks.

He recommends our friends who are curious about Atatürk and Kocacık Turks to acquire this as well. What we know so far is that Kızıl Ahmet Efendi in Atatürk‘s Kocacık village or settlement was the father of Ali Rıza himself, but his previous works were as a result of the valuable studies of Mehmet Danyal Hergünsel. I have learned it myself and these are the books  that he wrote before, the book International Balkan Stories No.2 was written here for the first time, but as far as I know, we will be transferring this important information from his own work to you for the first time through the internet.

Let’s listen to Mr. Mehmet Danyal Hergünsel on this subject. I believe that we will get important information from Mr. Mehmet Danyal Hergünsel about the ancestors of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.

Welcome, Mr. Mehmet, Good day, Mr. Mehmet, I would like to ask you to introduce yourself briefly, and I would appreciate it if you could raise your voice a little. Here you go, sir.

Mehmet Danyal Hergunsel

I was born in Sakarya Hendek, my father İbrahim Hergünsel is a retired Monopoly Manager and my mother is the son of Hendekli Mülazimoğlu Family. I went to primary school in different cities due to my father’s duties, I finished secondary school in Hendek, then I graduated from Haydarpaşa High School and Istanbul Technical University, I am retired, I am currently a consultant, but I am retired, I worked mostly in the automotive and iron and steel sectors.

Well, can you talk about the ties between Atatürk’s family and yours?

This was a topic that was talked about in our family, but not much talked about outside. You can see it in all his trilogy in the books of my late grandfather Falih Rıfkı Atay. Cafer from the General Union and Progress Center is also the neighborhood where Atatürk was born, who was born in Thessaloniki. But according to our family’s estimation, Atatürk may have been born in 1877-1878-1879, so we think he was a little older than 81.

Where is your grandfather from, sir?

My grandfather was originally from Thessaloniki, but his family is from Skopje , and my grandfather is from Beyşehir Çavuş Yörüks .

Beyşehir Çavuş nomads, who were occupied after 1467, immigrated from Beyşehir to Macedonia by the Ottomans. What is the name of the settlement that you will specify as important today, sir?

Stepleva sir. Isn’t it a settlement at an altitude of 1250 meters near the border in Albania today, which we show with this little red ? Yes, sir, let’s not say that it is a village based on the back of Kalkan Mountain. It is a place with a population of about 4000 some 200 years ago. Pay close attention to the previous population in the book of the master of Numan Kartal . Çavuş  Yoruk They are of Kayı origin. They settle in the place whose real name is Kayı. Around 300 people stay there, most of them settle in Stepleva , a place with a very perfect flora, which also has hot water on the hill, where potatoes grow.

It is a place with really high security and protection due to its location. This is the billboard at today’s entrance to the place you’re talking about. Sir, you probably know that at the time Stepleva was connected to Debrei Bala , then it is always said about Atatürk , “Kocacik” . Of course, if you go by horse between Kocacik and Stepleva , there is a distance of 13-14 kilometers, but today you cannot go that way, you can go by drawing a U from the border gate.

Kizil Ahmet Effendi

I also stopped by Kocacik and met with Kocaciks , Atatürk ‘s grandfather Kızıl Hafız Ahmet Efendi, people may misunderstand this Red Hafiz. Now it is very possible to tell the young people that, like you , they are the ones who are doing deep research on the ancestors of the Turks who are interested in this subject. I will even say very important things. is there? no.

In this program, your biggest contribution will be in this regard, that is, the Çavuş  migrated from Anatolia to this place together with Atatürk ‘s ancestors, this is a geography very suitable for living in the greenery today. Because there is a mosque you see in the future, don’t you see this mosque is my grandmother’s father, they call it a hat. We call it yabgu. It is on the land of Hacı Bayram Yabgun. The name of my great grandfather, the brother of Hacı Bayram Bey, is also Veli, and he can probably tell you something meaningful. The name of Hacı Bayram and Veli Bey’s younger siblings is Cevahir. Family Holiday is a family. The fact that Atatürk also visited His Holiness Haji Bayram Veli, let’s call it Kızılca day, after the Kaan ceremony was held in Ulus in Anatolia, is an emphasis on this. Let me point this out here.

Nomads and Albans

Our grandfather’s lands, Çavuş, are in the upper neighborhood, let me take you to the right in higher places. Seventy percent of the village is the land of the Çavuş , which Mersin teacher told me , and 30% of the land of the Khojaly people. Did you pay attention to the name of Mersin Hodja? His brother’s name is also Izmir Hodja. In other words, if you draw an arc from Mersin to İzmir, what would you see there, the Yörüks of the Taurus Mountains ? Such a mark is very meaningful. These names are a very meaningful expression, they should be congratulated on their father. Very interesting Sir Stebleva , there are Bulgarian families whose lovers descended from the time of Khan Asparuk in that region from the old Bulgarian khanate. It is very old but there are families of Bulgarian origin who went down in the time of sports.

But as you know, when our Turks and nomads go there, they search for Obalı marriages. When Turks look to see who they can marry, they can find a second person who will not be related and who will be Muslim . I congratulate you on this issue. You have made an excellent program and I have sent all of them to Albania and friends there. I really like your programs. Of course, this is how it is in our nomads , for example, it is very interesting .He said he saw me. They were like twins, so much alike, let me tell you where this comes from. There is no Turkish family that does not have an Albanian bride, and they certainly have been together through a marriage, and I think a little bit of color may be coming from there. Sir, Atatürk ‘s father has an uncle named Kızıl Hafız Mehmet Efendi.

Kızıl Hafız Mehmet Efendi was born in 1805. Kızıl Hafız Ahmet Efendi was born in 1815. My dear friend Levent Ağaoğlu found this from documents and historical records. I have it on my phone right now, but I’ll email it to you as well. Kızıl Hafız Mehmet Efendi and Ahmet Efendi were born in Steblava. Their father is Ali Piruş Efendi, this nickname is an adjective used in Yörüks Ali Piruş Efendi becomes the grandfather of Ali Rıza Bey There is a word called Pürtelaş, yes, I congratulate him. Well, who is his father , Mustafa Bey, whose nickname is Conka , this person is from the great Çavuş family . But Conka as a nickname. The reason why it was given is that it means a person with a strong word, heart, wrist and mind. At the same time, the name Conka is a nickname. If you notice, Atatürk’s best friend is more than a brother. Nuri Conker is giving Bey his surname as Conker. In other words, in the pictures I sent you, you see a fountain named Conka Mustafa . Now this issue is very important.

Skopje

I, Ferit Bushati Bey, a member of a very important Alban family, was in the village, my grandmother’s uncle’s son, Naim, came from Tirana to see us, hugged and cried. However, Uncle Naim has never seen my grandfather or my father. The reason is that when our people started the events in the region in 1821, 11 families Çavuş, Anchors, Kuburlar, Muradiler, Bagislar, and I say Yabgu, most of them migrate to Skopje because they have problems with the surrounding peoples. Because it is such an interesting region that there are Slavs in the north, there are Greeks in the west . For example, Atatürk ‘s uncleRed Hafiz Mehmet Bey immigrates to Skopje .

They have extended families in Skopje , Kuburs, Muradis, Donations, Yabgu and so on, they were relatives. You know a second incident of Atatürk, while he was on duty in Damascus, he came to Skopje as a fugitive from Egypt by ship from Cairo . The main core of the Union and Progress. That’s when my grandfathers Atatürk knew each other very well. Those in the Balkans at that time, the Niyazi men from Resne and the others İttihat ve Terakki They are establishing the Association called Vatan ve Hürriyet, which is a sub-preparation of . Skopje is a very sheltered place for families, but it is not the Trade Center, but the jobs our families know are certain livestock, Timbering, and later the tobacco trade.

These three are very important. Although the ladies and families stayed in Skopje , Thessaloniki, which was a trade center at that time, was more developed in economic conditions, more open to the outside world and in a more central location Because it is not possible to find this opportunity in the port city of Skopje . Family elders start to trade there. My grandfather’s grandfather, Cafer Bey, is a well-to-do timber trader. Kütahya Deputy Mehmet Somer, one of the first deputies and also a relative, tells this in his memoirs. There is also Cimer.

Mr. Ali Rıza, you know, the reji also works as a civil servant, so this is the equivalent of today’s monopoly, which we call the tobacco administration reji, but of course, his financial means are not sufficient, he makes a marriage. There is another article after my roots article in Balkan writers. Yes, I caught something very interesting in that article, Turgay Bey, Atatürk ‘s mother, about 300 households settled in Obadan Langaza, they named the place they settled as Kayı (Kayı, Sarı Göl, Langaza). So these families have known each other since then.

The place we call Langaza is the Karaman Turks who settled there after 1467, the old name of which was kayi. These village people then left no one in Greece and they all came to Turkey. So these are people who know each other and have relationships from certain plains. Here is Ataturk‘s mother’s side, but of course I do not have enough information about it since I am on the father’s side. This information in the book has brought me to this point. Consider the situation of the region at that time, Greek gangs, on the one hand, the term Greek gangs would be wrong. Later on, Bulgarian committee members. Now, the Committee of Union and Progress everyone thinks that it consists of a single wing. No, there were different groups within the Committee of Union and Progress at that time.

Enver Pasha, Talat Pasha, Bahattin Şakir, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk were also Ottoman officers in the Committee of Union and Progress, but I think my grandfathers were mostly writing in the books of Mr. Akıncı at that time, mostly because they were young and dynamic and knew the region well. they took on different roles. By the way, you can see what Fahri Rıfkı Atay wrote. There is Cemal Pasha in the 4th Army in Damascus, who is in charge of decryption.

Now, this is very interesting, I hope, how would it be to go with you. I have cousins ​​from your grandmother there. They speak 7-8 languages. It is very interesting, isn’t it, it is very interesting. Moreover, it is not like the hanutists in the Grand Bazaar, that is, by giving every language its due, everyone thinks that Macedonian Bulgarian Russian Slavic are not very close, they are all different. They also speak ancient Greek, an interesting community there, but the mother tongue never changes, Turkish. Look, even today, my aunt, Necmiye Arif, even when buying a bride, stipulates that Turkish will be her mother tongue. Today, we cannot see this consciousness in Anatolia.

Stepleva

There is a lot of myths about Atatürk There is a Face page called Shoqada Stepleva Mersin Hodja put an article there, Atatürk has a Fountain Atatürk has a Neighborhood Atatürk has a way Stepleva , which the Albanian government considers one of the hundred ancient Turkish villages , said, “The steplish people who raised Atatürk , so they don’t deserve this. A month later, I took a picture of that page, thank God. A month later, they made it a touristic village instead of a Turkish village. You know what I mean, right?

Uncle Ferit Bushati, whom I learned from in the village of Steplava , is from an important Alban family. He worked in the population administration in the city of Libraj for 30 years. I told him that I wanted to reach the documents about Steplava from 1470 to 1770, he said he would do his best, but I could not get any information until today.

Steplava is a very important place. I am calling out to our historians from here, I am not a historian, I am a graduate engineer from Technical University and a good history reader. There are works of all local and foreign historians in my library. It is against mathematical facts to write anything about Atatürk ‘s father without examining the Steplava issue well . 17 km of the road to Steplava is a rocky and bad road, so no one can go easily. On this occasion , those who wrote books about Atatürk and his family called, have you ever been to Steplava ? I said. They told me where is Steplava , then AtatürkYou connected the father’s side of the house to the Mevlevihane in Thessaloniki, and I asked what document and information they wrote about it. Look, the current chief of staff of Kosovo , the former speaker of the Macedonian parliament, says that Atatürk ‘s family is from Steplavan , with the information left over from his grandfather.

My dear friend Levent Ağaoğlu, through our Albanian ambassador, we applied to the authorities to get information about the Steplava records. In the reply we received, we were told that all documents were destroyed by Enver Hoxha after 1445. I don’t believe it. For this reason, our historians have a duty, I have many relatives in that region. Old records can be clearly found in Steplavada, Lbrajda, Depre , as well as Topkapi Palace records.

And this is the greatest task of our historians. Ali Rıza Bey ‘s grandfather shows Ali Piruş Efendi as Aptuş Efendi, because it was written as A. Pirush, because of his high ignorance and ignorance of some British people in Turkey . Unfortunately, there are scoundrels and traitors who believe and respect this. This is the saddest part of the job. Atatürk is a value that brought his Turkishness to the forefront with every step of his life. They could have named Turkey in Kemaliye. When the Germans sent weapons and ammunition in the Dardanelles War, Enverland was written on the ballot boxes.

Çavuş Nomads

Look, 2 people from Karaman are very important in the name of Turkishness. The first is Karamanoğlu Mehmet, who made Turkish language dominant in these lands, and the second is Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk , one of the Beyşehir Karaman Çavuş Yörüks , who gave this country the name of Turkey . Please let your related historians come and take the risk of going up only the 17 km road. It is a rocky road. We will rent a jeep from Libraj and go. You touched on a very important point in your program with my brother, Historian Bahtiyar Aydın. I send my best wishes to my brother Bahtiyar Aydın. The important issue here is that it is very difficult to contribute to Turkish history without understanding the Christian Turks in Anatolia.

Last week, I went to my ancestral hometown, Beyşehir Çavuş village. The construction date of the Seljuk mosque in Çavuş village is 1289. The year our people were resettled, provided that there was not one person left in the village, is between 1467-1470. Look, there are not only Beyşehir Çavuş Yörüks , but also Seydişehir Çavuş. When my late father read the tombstones of the Çavuş quarter in Istanbul Şile , he was a person with a high command of Arabic, Persian and English . Settlement was not only in Macedonia and Southern Bulgaria, but also in Sinop and even Trabzon, where Karaman Turks settled.

I am not a historian. The documents and information I have inherited from my family and obtained by researching and they had siblings named Makbule. These names are in my family as well. These are the names that come from the upper grandfathers. There is another subject that is not talked about much. After his father’s death, Atatürk‘s stepfather Ragıb, Zübeyde Hanım, Mustafa Kemal and Makbule Hanım went to the Langaza (Kayı, Sarıgöl) farm where Atatürk’s uncle worked, but they returned due to unfavorable conditions. My father’s grandfather İbrahim Bey got married to Ragıb Bey, the director of the directorate, who lost his first wife, who was older, through his wife, who is the daughter of the mufti of Skopje . This marriage can also be explained by both the protection of the family and the ownership.

You may remember that there was the famous confectioner Zeynel in Üsküdar, our great-uncle, grandfather, my father, İbrahim Bey, and cousins. When our great Çavuş  family was deciphered in the Committee of Union and Progress, an important Circassian pasha of high rank at that time was probably also a Unionist, giving our family a large land on the Beykoz side. In ours, they bring with them five pomak families whose milk cheese works very well. When I was a kid, that area was called Çavuş‘s Farm. His name today is known as Çavuşbaşı because of our family . In short , 430 years after Beyşehir Çavuş village, the family came to Beykoz Çavuşbaşı and returned to Anatolian lands.

Mr. Mehmet Danyal, you gave very important information, I did not want to interrupt you. Atatürk ‘s family, Ali Rıza, one of the Beyşehir Çavuş Yörüks , his father Kızıl Hafız Ahmet Efendi, his father Ali Piruş Efendi, and his father Conka Mustafa Bey . You say that after 1467, it is possible by examining the old documents in the 300-year disconnection. This is a task given to Turkish historians. It was invaluable for you to present them. I was informed about Conka Mustafa Bey for the first time. Although I was related to these issues, we did not know what happened after the Red Hafiz .

Husband’s Issue

Turgay Bey Ali Riza Bey was born in 1839 in Thessaloniki. The husband issue comes from the fact that Ali Rıza Bey’s father, Kızıl Hafız Ahmet, taught a madrasah in Kocacık village for a while in his youth. When I go to Kocacık village, you don’t get much answer as to who is Atatürk ‘s grandfather Kızıl Hafız ‘s father and who are his relatives . When I said to Uncle Ferit Bushati who is this Conka Mustafa, he turned to me and your Çavuş. He said he was a member of his family.

Bird measurement between Steplava and Kocacık is 13, 14 km. Both are places with a plateau climate at an altitude of 1200 meters. If you want to get a reference about Atatürk from now on, it should be done through Steplav . There are discussions on the Shoqada Steplava page that I also like.

Albanians

While some of our Albanian brothers want to present Atatürk as Albanian, some of them, my brother, should not make it all our own. There were Turks here, and Atatürk was an Ottoman officer who prioritized Turkishness in everything. In my opinion , the Albanians are an ancient Turan people. I say this everywhere. The Albanian name is unfortunately a Greek name given to them. You know what the word greek means. For the ancient historians, it is the name given to the Greeks who sell the animals they collect from Trabzon, the Black Sea coast, and the Marmara Sea in the coastal parts of the Aegean and Egypt. I don’t want to say too much.

Let’s put it clearly, Mehmet Bey, in return means a thief. This is known.

Çavuş Nomads

Sir, is there such a people as Greeks, in the light of genetics, Fethiye Sarper Erdemgil whose family is from Kocacik . He’s very busy with this stuff. As the grandson of Cafer Bey, one of the Çavuş nomads , I had a genetic test done. Atatürk ‘s great uncle Kızıl Hafız Mehmet Bey has grandchildren living in Turkey. They are first-degree relatives with Atatürk . There is Mr. Orhan Erbatur. They also have children. It is a very valuable family. If necessary, it is possible to prove this issue genetically. We are still known as the Grand Çavuş family in the Balkans. AtaturkWhen naming my grandfather, SEL means respect for the Seljuks, ER means a soldier without an rank in Turks, and erim (my head, knot) among the Yoruks , since my grandfather Cafer Bey is a member of the Turkist wing of the Committee of Union and Progress. Again, a great hero of our Çavuş family is my father’s cousin, Ferhat Islam Çavuş, who stayed there . He showed great heroism with his close friends against Hitler’s forces and was martyred at the age of 23.

The Albanian people see Ferhat Islam Çavuşi as a great hero, and perhaps out of respect for him, Ministers and high-ranking bureaucrats from the Çavuş family called Alban. or have served. You know, in our country, many important names of Caucasian origin served as Ministers, Generals, and High bureaucrats. The Caucasian people are the ancient Turkish Turan people from the Scythians and Sakas. So when we look at the Balkans, is everyone Turkish? Turks are always the ruling class. Look at the Royal families in Europe today, they are all genetically of Cuman origin. You can also find it on the internet. Even the Spanish commander, who unfortunately committed genocide against the natives in America, is also from this genetics. Our teacher Bahtiyar Aydın expressed this. Maybe this issue can be explained with epigenetics. Thank you.

After 15-20 years, many things will be explained in the light of genetics and epigenetics. I send my greetings and respects to my dear teacher Hilmi Özden. Gaspirali Ismail’s statement of unity in work, language and opinion and Hilmi Hodja’s epigenetic articles fit together very well. Atatürk said, “How happy is the one who is a Turk, not how happy a Turk is”. The issue should not be that you have blood ties with Atatürk , it should be continuing what Atatürk did to the Turkish nation, owning it and following the path.

Thank you very much, Mr. Mehmet. In this program, we told hundreds of thousands of what you wrote in your memoir and biography article called ROOTS in your Balkan Stories book. From now on, the follow-up of the subject and the 300-year-old part between Beyşehir Çavuş village and Conka Mustafa Bey will be investigated by our historians. Thank you very much for your valuable information and I wish you success in your work.